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]]> By: Mark http://bitterjug.com/blog/activism/#comment-8709 Mark Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:17:55 +0000 http://bitterjug.com/?p=639#comment-8709 I definitely side with Marshall, one of my main motivations for going to the camp was to swell the numbers. I imagined it would be growing year by year and surprised to find the large site containing still about 1000- 1500 campers. I think it would send an a useful message to the media if numbers were to grow like those for festivals like Sunrise. Shows what we are motivated by as a nation. doesn't it? After watching that interview I spoke to Nic about it, she asked if I thought the camp would scale up. Do you think consensus decision making would work if there were 10,000 people there? Would the necessary number of composting loos get built? In a way it would be a useful experiment for those proposing anarchic self-governance as a viable alternative to (state/corporate) power. I think there might be, at least, some important lessons to learn from applying those principles outside the very self-selecting subset of the population who have participated in the camp so far. I definitely side with Marshall, one of my main motivations for going to the camp was to swell the numbers. I imagined it would be growing year by year and surprised to find the large site containing still about 1000- 1500 campers. I think it would send an a useful message to the media if numbers were to grow like those for festivals like Sunrise. Shows what we are motivated by as a nation. doesn’t it?

After watching that interview I spoke to Nic about it, she asked if I thought the camp would scale up. Do you think consensus decision making would work if there were 10,000 people there? Would the necessary number of composting loos get built?

In a way it would be a useful experiment for those proposing anarchic self-governance as a viable alternative to (state/corporate) power. I think there might be, at least, some important lessons to learn from applying those principles outside the very self-selecting subset of the population who have participated in the camp so far.

]]> By: Emilia http://bitterjug.com/blog/activism/#comment-8643 Emilia Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:54:44 +0000 http://bitterjug.com/?p=639#comment-8643 Not quite directly relevant, but this interview captures the main questions of the Climate Camp for me - should it be a mass movement to which 10,000 people go next year, or should concentrate on remaining at the cutting edge of radicalism? I'm a great fan of George Marshall's, who argues for a mass-movement, and don't know much about Uri Gordon, but I'm tempted to read his book about contemporary anarchism. http://undercurrentsvideo.blogspot.com/2008/08/debate-how-to-campaign-against-climate.html Not quite directly relevant, but this interview captures the main questions of the Climate Camp for me - should it be a mass movement to which 10,000 people go next year, or should concentrate on remaining at the cutting edge of radicalism? I’m a great fan of George Marshall’s, who argues for a mass-movement, and don’t know much about Uri Gordon, but I’m tempted to read his book about contemporary anarchism. http://undercurrentsvideo.blogspot.com/2008/08/debate-how-to-campaign-against-climate.html

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